John Onaiyekan and Anne Widdecombe, Conservative MP, debate Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry

Here at Intelligence Squared, Archbishop John Onaiyekan and Anne Widdecombe, Conservative MP, debate Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry about whether or not the Catholic church is a force for good in the world. Do your best to endure Widdecombe’s voice to hear all her points, if you can.

All five parts are below, including opening speeches by each and a question/answer period:



I have to say, my highlight was Stephen Fry’s comment near the end of his opening statement:

It’s the strange thing about this church, it is obsessed with sex, absolutely obsessed. Now, they will say we with our permissive society and our rude jokes, we are obsessed. No, we have a healthy attitude, we like it, it’s fun, it’s jolly, because it’s a primary impulse it can be dangerous and dark and difficult, it’s a bit like food in that respect only even more exciting. The only people who are obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese, and that in erotic terms is the Catholic Church in a nutshell.



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